Genealogy

Descendants of Johann Friedrich Ramke

First Generation

N.B. Information regarding Johann Friedrich Ramke and his marriages  was at times sketchy and sometimes contradictory. He was also known as "Anton Meyer of Ketsche" and "Bollman of Ratswiehe" while he was the owner or administrator of either one or both properties.  It was obtained mainly from the Riede Church records and verified where possible by the records in the book  "Heimatbuch Riede" by Dr. Fritz Garvens. Where the information was contradictory the memories of Meta Meyer (nee Seekamp) and Luise Klatte (nee Ramke Meyer) were recorded as the accepted version.

1. Johann Friederich Ramke was born in Uenzen, North Germany about 1760.  Johann married (1) the childless Widow Bollman from "Ratswiehe" about 1785 They had no children but after she died in  1789 he inherited "Ratswiehe"  He then became known as "Bollman of Ratswiehe".
After The Widow Bollman’s death Johann then married 1790 (2) Anne Elisabeth Glander who was the childless widow of the last of that line of the "Meyers of Ketsche", Anton Ludolph Meyer who died 1789. She inherited "Ketsche" but  then went to live at "Ratswiehe". Anne died about 1799. Johann then became the administrator of Ketsche and was also then known as "Anton Meyer of Ketsche".  
They had one child:
+  2 M  Anton Heinrich Ramke (He was known as Anton Meyer of Ketsche) was born 1792. He died 1848 at "Ketsche".
Anton was nominated by his mother as the heir to "Ketsche" and was christened Anton Meyer following the tradition in that part of Germany at that time of naming the heir of a property after the name of the traditional owners, regardless of their birth names.
Johann Friederich then married  31st October 1800   (3)  Gesche Margarethe Kuhlenkamp (spinster) of Uenzen.   Some records show that he died in 1805 and that Gesche Margarethe then became the administrator of  both "Ketsche" and "Ratswiehe" Estates on behalf of the heir (2M Anton Heinrich Ramke). After Johann Friederich Ramke’s death Gesche then married Claus Beneke in 1807. No children were recorded from this marriage.
Johann and Gesche had the following children:
+  3 M   i. Johann Heinrich Ramke was born 27/08/1801 and after Johann Friederich Ramke’s (his father) death in 1805 was nominated by his mother as "heir to Ratswiehe so he was also known as "Bollman of Ratswiehe". Johann Heinrich  married 14/06/1822,  Anna Elisabeth Wessel. They did have issue but there is no record. He evidently sold the property to Johann Rieckers ( also Riechers) in 1833 and the Riechers family owned the property until 1976 when it was sold to Conrad Ortmann
  4 M  ii. Friederich Johann Ramke was born 8/12/1802  There is no further record.

Second Generation

2. Anton Heinrich Ramke ( Anton Meyer of Ketsche)  (Johann Friederich Ramke) was born at "Ratswiehe" 1792.  Anton married 6/10/1813, Anne Katherine Bruns the daughter of Christian Bruns and Maria Sophia Wiederhofer.
They had the following children who were initially all called Meyer but by court order in 1836 were officially known as Ramke-Meyer:
+ 5 M    i. Anton Friederich Ramke - Meyer was born 24/12/1827.
  6 F   ii. Anna Elise Ramke-Meyer was born 1/03/1830.
  7 F  iii.  Minna Maria Dorothee Ramke-Meyer was born 27/01/1833. On 4/10/1860 she married Karl Louis Strahsburg. No recorded issue.
  8 M   iv. Heinrich Adolph Ramke-Meyer was born 17/03/1836

Third Generation

5. Anton Friederich Ramke-Meyer  (Anton Heinrich, Johann Friederich) was born at Ketsche  24/12/1827 and as heir to Ketsche was also known as "Anton Meyer". He died about 1870. Anton married, 18/11/1858,  Anna Magdalena Heineke daughter of the  miller F.W. Heineke. Anna died 7/09/1929. They had the following children:  
  9 M    i. Anton Friederich Heinrich Ramke-Meyer  was born 7/09/1859 at Ketsche.  Anton was the Heir to Ketsche but owing to ill health he forfeited his inheritance to Johann Heinrich Theodor in 1897 and died shortly thereafter.
  10 M  ii. Friederich Wilhelm Theodor Ramke-Meyer was born 29/10/1862 and died as a result of a horse riding accident about 1880.
+ 11 M iii. Johann Heinrich Theodor Ramke-Meyer was born 3/10/1864 at Ketsche.  Some records show him as Theodor Johann Heinrich. He Became heir to Ketsche when his brother Anton forfeited his inheritance in his favour in 1897.
+ 12 M  iv. Hermann Friederich Georg Ramke-Meyer  was born 4/04/1866 at Ketsche.

Fourth Generation

11. Johann Heinrich Theodor Ramke-Meyer (Anton Friedreich, Anton Heinrich, Johann Friederich) born 3/10/1864 and died about 1948, more commonly known as Theodor Meyer after officially becoming the "owner" or ‘Landlord’ of  Ketsche in 1896. Theodor married 1/10/1900, Meta Seekamp born 12/12/1878, daughter of Johann Heinrich Seekamp and Adelheid Glander.  Meta died 17/10/1970.
They had two sons:
+  13 M   i.  Anton Johann Heinrich Ramke-Meyer was born 13/01/1902 at Ketsche. He was the heir to Ketsche so was also known as "Anton Meyer".  He died 1/07/1978 at Ketsche and was the last "Anton Meyer of Ketsche."
+  14 M  ii. Johann Heinrich Theodor Ramke-Meyer was born 16/09/1905.

12.    Hermann Friederich Georg Ramke-Meyer (Anton Friederich, Anton Heinrich, Johann Friederich) was born on 4 Apr 1866 in Ketsche, Bremen District, Germany. He died on 16 Feb 1941 in Johannesburg, South Africa. Hermann arrived in South Africa in 1890. Hermann married Winifred Mary Southey daughter of George Rubidge Southey and Mary Payne Rubidge on 11 Aug 1897 in Hamburg, Transvaal, South Africa. Winifred was born on 27 Jul 1877 in Steynsburg, Eastern Cape, South Africa. She died on 22 Nov 1957 in Rondebosch, Cape Town, South Africa.
In 1924 owing to anti German feelings Hermann changed his name by deed poll to Herman Frederick George Ramke and his family, also by deed poll dropped the Meyer from the double barrelled Ramke –Meyer. Wilfred chose to retain the double barrelled Ramke-Meyer however all his children were registered, without the Meyer, as Ramke.  
They had the following children:
+  15  M    i.  Wilfred Southey Ramke - Meyer was born on 17 Jul 1898 on the farm "Pyrmont" (Leeukop), Johannesburg. He died on 7th May 1981 at "Pippin Hill" Northern Transvaal, South Africa.
  16  M   ii.  Otto Claude Southey Ramke-Meyer was born on 13 Sep 1900 on "Pyrmont", Johannesburg, South Africa. He died on 7th May 1921 in Johannesburg, South Africa. Otto had no issue.
+ 17  M  iii.  Ernest Southey Ramke was born on 20 May 1903. He died on 13 Aug 1970.
  18  F   iv.  Elsa Ina Ramke - Meyer was born on 13 Aug 1906. She died on 11 Nov 1906.
  19  F    v.  Irma Winifred Ramke was born on 6 Jan 1908 in Johannesburg, South Africa she died January 1984 at Rondebosch, Cape.
  20  F   vi.  Leona May Ramke was born on 10 Nov 1911 in Johannesburg, South Africa she died July 1986 at Rondebosch, Cape.

Fifth Generation

13.  Anton Johann Heinrich Ramke-Meyer (Johann H., Anton F.,Anton H., Johann F.) was born 13/01/1902 at Ketsche and died 1/07/1978 at Ketsche. He was the heir to Ketsche and was thus known as "Anton Meyer of Ketsche".  He married 5/06/1931, Luise Meyer, daughter of Heinrich Meyer and Margariete Nolte.  Luise was born 7/12/1907 and died 7/02/1992 at Ketsche.
They had one daughter :
+ 21 F   i.  Luise Dorothee Ramke-Meyer born 30/04/1932 at Ketsche.  Luise married 28/01/1954,  Dieter Jan Friederich Wolf Klatte born 6/01/1925 at "Arsten" son of Friederich Wilhelm Klatte and Anna Adele Benecke. Dieter died 29/8/1993
They had two children:
+  i. Henning Friederich Anton Klatte  born 3/12/1954 at Ketsche. Henning married 27/03/1982, Eva Tessin born 15/11/1959, they live at "Schlieme" and have 3 children. Henning inherited the Ketsche land and "Schlieme".
    a)  Matthias Klatte born 17/08/1982
    b)  Sebastian Klatte born  7/04/1986  
    c)  Jonas Klatte born 13/02/1990

ii.  Friederike Adele Luise Klatte born at Ketsche 13/09/1958. Friederike married:
           1)  Dr. Bernhard Hauser, married 6/9/1979  divorced 1984.
           2)  Burkhard Straeter born 5/01/1950, married 4/12/1998.

14. Johann Heinrich Theodor Ramke-Meyer (Johann H.,Anton F., Anton H.,Johann F.) was born 16/09/1905 at Ketsche and died 26/01/1993 at "Dibbersen".  He was known as Heinrich Ramke-Meyer of Dibbersen. He married, 1/10/1937, Frieda Witte, born 21/12/1913, daughter of Dietrich Witte and Dora Schumacher. Frieda died 24/05/1998 at Dibbersen.
They had one daughter:
+    22 F  i.  Frieda Margarethe Ramke-Meyer born 6/07/1938 at "Dibbersen".  She married Friederich Ernst born 16/07/1935, in about 1964.
They have 2 children :
a)  Thomas Ernst born 20/10/1965
b)  Martina Ernst born 23/5/1968

15.  Wilfred Southey Ramke-Meyer (Hermann Friedrich Georg, Anton Friedrich) was born on 17 Jul 1898 on Leeukop- "Pyrmont", Johannesburg, South Africa. He died on 7 May 1981 on "Pippin Hill", Northern Transvaal, South Africa.
Wilfred married (1), Madge Isobel McLachlan daughter of David Ritchie McLachlan and Florence Hyacinth Duncan on 15 Jan 1930 in Bulawayo, Rhodesia (Zimbabwe).  Madge was born on 12 Jun 1900 in Durban South Africa. She died on 14 Dec 1959 in Johannesburg, South Africa.
They had the following children who were all registered as Ramke thus dropping the double barrelled Ramke-Meyer:
+ 22  M    i.  David Noel Ramke was born on 24 Dec 1930.
  23  F   ii.  Joan Mary Ramke was born on 8 May 1932 in Cape Town, South Africa.  
              Joan married (1) Patrick O'Brien Frost "Pat" son of Patrick O'Brien Frost and Enid Rowbotham  2/01/1958 in Johannesburg, South Africa. Pat was born on 27 Feb 1925 in Messina, Northern Transvaal, South Africa. He died on 21 Apr 1962. Patrick had no issue.
              Joan married (2) Peter Frank Provis.  Peter was born on 25 Jan 1919 in England. He died about 1993 in South Africa. Peter had 2 sons from his first marriage but no children with Joan.
+  24  M  iii.  Pieter Ramke was born on 6 Aug 1941.
+  25  M   iv.  Neil Ramke was born on 20 Aug 1943. He died on 14 Feb 1989.

Wilfred married (2), 1962 Violet Fleming, born Reid. Violet was born in 1900 in Johannesburg, South Africa. The marriage was annulled about 1964.
Wilfred married (3), Daphne Clatworthy, born Elston. Daphne was born on 31 May 1916 in Johannesburg, South Africa. She died in Dec 2000 in Wales, UK.

17.  Ernest Southey Ramke (Herman Friedrich Georg, Anton Friedrich) was born on 20 May 1903. He died on 13 Aug 1970 in Johannesburg, South Africa. Ernest married Evelyn Alice Dustan on 3 Feb 1934. Evelyn was born on 25 Mar 1905. She died on 13th Jan 1990 in Johannesburg, South Africa.
They had a daughter:
  26  F  i.  Glenn Isobel Winifred Ramke was born on 29 Aug 1941 in Johannesburg, South Africa.

Sixth Generation

22.  David Noel Ramke (Wilfred Southey Ramke-Meyer, Hermann Friedrich Georg, Anton Friedrich) was born on 24 Dec 1930 in Luanshya, Northern Rhodesia (Zambia).  David married Patricia Dawn Steels daughter of Alan Herbert Steels and Monica Mary Carey on 2 Nov 1957. Patricia Dawn was born on 11 Nov 1933 in Johannesburg, South Africa. David died in Johannesburg 2nd. April 2006 from a heart attack.
They had the following children:
+  27  F   i.  Patricia Ann Ramke was born on 26 Dec 1958.
+  28  F  ii.  Kirsten Mary Ramke was born on 3 Aug 1966.

24.  Pieter Ramke (Wilfred Southey Ramke-Meyer, Hermann Friedrich Georg, Anton Friedrich) was born on 6 Aug 1941 in Johannesburg, South Africa. Pieter is also known as Peter Ramka.  Pieter married Jennifer Ann Shaw daughter of Eric Hindmarsh Shaw and Nedra Jane Webb of "Takilberan Station", Gin Gin, Queensland on, 3 Jun 1966 in Johannesburg, South Africa. Jennifer was born on 10 Apr 1940 in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia.
Pieter and Jennifer had the following children:
+ 29  F    i.  Jane Madge Ramke was born on 6 Mar 1967  in Sabie, E, Tvl.
+ 30  F   ii.  Katherine Ann Ramke was born on 20 Dec 1968 in Sabie, E.Tvl.
  31  M  iii.  Robert Southey Ramke was born on 3 Dec 1970 in Sabie, Eastern Transvaal (Mpumalanga), South Africa. Robert is also known as Robert Southey Ramka.

25.  Neil Ramke (Wilfred Southey Ramke-Meyer, Hermann Friedrich Georg, Anton Friedrich) was born on 20 Aug 1943 in Johannesburg, South Africa. He died on 14 Feb 1989 in Durban, South Africa.
Neil married Carol Johnson on 20 Mar 1970 in Durban, South Africa. Carol was born on 19 Mar 1948. Carol’s parents were Leslie Wylie Johnson and Kathleen Daisy Palethorpe.
They had the following children:
+ 32 F    i.  Lisa Ramke was born on 31 Dec 1970 in Durban, Natal.
  33 F   ii.  Adele Ramke was born 04/08/1973 in Durban, Natal. Adele married Gavin Clark Field on 10 Dec 1999. Gavin was born 04/07/1975 in Pretoria and is the son of Dudley Clive Field and Brenda Noreen Scott-Dawkins.
  34 M  iii.  Matthew Leslie Ramke was born on 5 Aug 1984 in Durban, South Africa. Matthew deed polled his family name back to the double barrelled Ramke-Meyer in 1994.

Seventh Generation

27.  Patricia Ann Ramke (David Noel Ramke, Wilfred Southey Ramke-Meyer, Hermann Friedrich Georg, Anton Friedrich) was born on 26th Dec 1958 in Johannesburg, South Africa. Patricia married Peter Lague. Peter was born on 29 Dec 1955.
They had the following children:
  35  F    i.  Iska Star Lague was born on 6 Nov 1984 in Harare, Zimbabwe.
  36  F   ii.  Jamaica Lague was born on 22 Feb 1988 in Harare, Zimbabwe.
  37  M  iii.  Sebastian Jerome Lague was born on 22 Feb 1997 in Cape Town, South Africa.

28.  Kirsten Mary Ramke (David Noel Ramke, Wilfred Southey Ramke - Meyer, Hermann Friedrich Georg, Anton Friedrich) was born on 3 Aug 1966 in Johannesburg, South Africa. Kirsten married Dominique Marie Maxime Pitot de la Beaujardiere on 30th Oct 1993 in Johannesburg, South Africa. Dominique was born on 19 May 1957 in Durban, South Africa.
They had the following children:
  38  M    i.  Guillaume Maxime Francis Pitot de la Beaujardiere was born on 21 Apr 1995 in Johannesburg, South Africa.
  39  F   ii.  Sidonie  Patricia Monica Pitot de la Beaujardiere was born on 2 Jan 1998 in Johannesburg, South Africa.
  
29. Jane Madge Ramke (Pieter Ramke, Wilfred Southey Ramke-Meyer, Hermann Friedrich Georg, Anton Friedrich) was born on 6 Mar 1967 in Sabie, Eastern Transvaal (Mpumalanga), South Africa. Jane married John Stanley Avery son of John Avery and Jocelyn on 24 Sep 1988. John was born on 9 Mar 1967 in Longreach, Queensland, Australia.
They had the following children:
  40  F    i.  Shelley Anne Avery was born on 24 Jan 1989 in Longreach, Queensland, Australia.
  41  M   ii.  Bradley John Avery was born on 22 Mar 1990 in Longreach, Queensland, Australia.
  42  M  iii.  Rodney Avery was born on 24 Jan 1991 in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. He died on 5 Apr 1991.
  43  M   iv.  Campbell Avery was born on 13 Jul 1994, in Nambour, Queensland, Australia. He died at birth on 13 Jul 1994.
  44  F    v.  Jessica Margaret Avery was born on 8 Apr 1997 in Nambour, Queensland, Australia.
  45  M   vi.  Richard Peter Avery was born on 14 Jul 1998 in Nambour, Queensland, Australia.

30.  Katherine Ann Ramke (Pieter Ramke, Wilfred Southey Ramke-Meyer, Hermann Friedrich Georg, Anton Friedrich) was born on 20 Dec 1968 in Sabie, Eastern Transvaal (Mpumalanga), South Africa. Katherine married Murray Raymond Davison son of Raymond Davison and Margaret on 30 Oct 1993. Murray was born on 13 Nov 1969 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
They had the following children:
  46  M   i.  Mitchell Raymond Davison was born on 1 Jan 1995 in Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia.
  47  F  ii.  Peta Margaret Joan Davison was born on 10 Aug 1998 in Port Headland, Western Australia, Australia.

31. Robert Southey Ramka  born 3rd. December 1970, Sabie, Eastern Transvaal, South Africa. married Sharon Merridee Ross 11th April 2009. Sharon was born 10 th February 1971 in Sydney New South Wales Australia.
They had the following children:
  48 M   i.  Rylen Alfred Ramka was born 6th August 2010, Sydney, Australia.
  49 F  ii.  Ruby Merridee Jenny Ramka was born 29th January, 2013, Sydney, Australia

32.  Lisa Ramke (Neil Ramke, Wilfred Southey Ramke-Meyer, Hermann Friedrich Georg, Anton Friedrich) was born on 31 Dec 1970 in Durban, South Africa. Lisa married Michael Edgcumbe on 18 Jul 1993.
They had the following children:
  50  M   i.  Reuben Edgcumbe was born on 13 Apr 1995 in Durban, Natal.
  51  F  ii.  Tamsyn Edgcumbe was born on 19 Dec 1996 in Ladysmith, Natal.


Wilfred Southey Ramke-Meyer Family Line

GEORGE SOUTHEY Born 5/12/1776 – Culmstock, Devon, England. Died 07/1831 – Grahamstown, South Africa
Married: Joan Baker 10/09/1800 Culmstock
Born 1782. Died 16/10/1835, Grahamstown, South Africa.
Issue:
1) John
2) Sophia
3) William
4) Sir Richard
5) George
6) Elizabeth
7) Robert
8) Canon


GEORGE SOUTHEY (Hintza George) Born 11/03/1810 - Culmstock, Devon, England. Died 07/11/1867 - Grahamstown, South Africa
Married: Eleanor Rubidge
Born 07/01/1817 Carmarthen, Wales. Died 23/06/1879 Graaf-Reinet, South Africa
Issue:
1) Anna
2) Eleanor
3) Harriet
4) Georgina
5) George
6) Richard
7) Graham
8) Alice
9) Amy


GEORGE RUBIDGE SOUTHEY (Young George) Born 14/08/1843 “Bloemhof” Cape, South Africa. Died 15/05/1896 “Doornkop” JHB. TVL. REP.
Married Mary Rubidge
Born 5/9/1847 “Portlock” Graaf-Reinet Cape. Died 24/06/1919 Buried “Doornkop TVL.REP.
Issue:
1) Herbert
2) Claude (1867-1899
3) Georgina
4) George
5) Oscar
6) Winnifred
7) Eric


HERMANN FRIEDRICH GEORG RAMKE-MEYER Born 14/04/1866 “Ketsche” Bei Riede, Germany. Died Johannesburg, South Africa
Married Winifred Mary Southey 11/08/97 Hamburg TVL.REP.
Born 27/07/1877 Steynsburg Cape Colony. Died 22/11/1957 Rondebosch Cape, South Africa
Issue:
1) Wilfred Southey 17/07/1898 - 07/05/1981 Jhb. Pippin Hill Magoebaskloof
2) Otto Claude 13/09/1900 - 07/05/1921 Jhb. - Jhb.
3) Ernest Southey 20/05/1903 - 13/08/1970 Jhb. - Jhb.
4) Elsa Ina 13/08/1906 - 11/11/1906 Jhb. - Jhb.
5) Irma Winifred 06/01/1908- ?/01/1984 Jhb. - Cape
6) Leona May 10/11/1911 - ?/07/1986 Jhb. - Cape


WILFRED
Married Madge Isobel Mclachlan
Issue: 1) David Noel Ramke 24/12/1930
Married: Dawn Steels 2/11/1957 Born 11/11/1933
Issue: a) Patricia Ann 26/12/1958
       b) Kirsten Mary 3/08/1966

Issue: 2) Joan Mary 08/05/32

Issue: 3) Pieter Ramke 06/08/1941
Married: Jennifer Ann Shaw 3/06/1966 Born 10/04/1941
Issue: a) Jane Madge 6/03/1967
       b) Katherine Ann 20/12/1966
       c) Robert Southey 03/12/1970

Issue: 4) Neil Ramke 20/08/1943
Married: Carol Johnstone
Issue: a) Lisa Ramke 31/12/1970
       b) Adele Ramke 04/08/1973
       c) Matthew Ramke 05/08/1984 (Deed polled his name back to Ramke-Meyer)

This website is an abbreviation of Brownie’s soon to be published biography written by his son Peter (Pep) Ramke (aka Peter Ramka).
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